stigmateyes: (reach for the light)
[personal profile] stigmateyes
Ryner's life is the suck and he would seriously HIT Sion if he wasn't guilt-tripping right now, and Zero thinks Aather is beyond stupid but is perfectly happy with his role as a knight and is making grate friends with vampires and other assorted crazies. SO LET'S QUESTION MEME.

As mentioned above, I play Night/Ryner and Thorn/Zero.

Date: 2011-04-04 12:38 am (UTC)
deadofknight: (nothing to see here move along~)
From: [personal profile] deadofknight
First impressions from Thorn~?

Date: 2011-04-04 12:48 am (UTC)
hunting: (why won't you listen)
From: [personal profile] hunting
Thorn stupidly likes Maze. He finds him helpful in explaining things and he's always coming up to talk to him, which Thorn actually enjoys because at this stage Thorn likes people. Sure, he finds Maze a bit... odd. But considering that he also hangs out with vampires back home and in Aather, it... really isn't that big of a deal. He just likes talking with him. And has some interesting thoughts on Maze's relationship with Alice.

REVERSE ME!

Date: 2011-04-04 12:57 am (UTC)
deadofknight: (kittens!!)
From: [personal profile] deadofknight
Thorn is the first person Maze has ever named or explained things to, so he feels a bit proprietary over Thorn, as well as a tiny bit responsible for Thorn -- much like he felt responsible for feeding the crab Mother Goose gave him. As such Maze wants to keep tabs on how Thorn is doing in Aather and keep an eye on how he's doing. Other than that he does like Thorn's company and likes making new friends!! so. It's a mix of WHEE NEW PERSON and a dash of I NAMED IT IT IS MINE.

Tell me Thorn's thoughts about Maze's relationship to Alice?

Date: 2011-04-04 01:09 am (UTC)
hunting: (there's something missing)
From: [personal profile] hunting
LOL YOU HAVE A PET ZERO NOW?

As far as Alice, IT IS PRETTY DAMN WEIRD TO TALK ABOUT LISTENING TO SOMEONE'S HEARTBEAT. That said, Thorn is still working out this concept of feelings~. He knows he's connected to Daisy but doesn't really know if it's anything more than just friends. He was also pretty rough with her in his memory. That was the main reason he was questioning how Maze feels about Alice and whether they were friends? This whole maybe love maybe not thing is quite confusing to him. :|a But it sounds as if Alice is someone Maze really likes talking about and who is special to him so it's just... interesting to Thorn. Even if he finds the way Maze talks about her slightly odd. But again, Thorn doesn't have much of a comparison right now. |D

Maze's take on the whole Beauty/Mal debate? Why is he sticking with Beauty for now? Do his new memories make him any more likely to join Onyx?
Edited Date: 2011-04-04 01:10 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-04 01:26 am (UTC)
deadofknight: (pinged!)
From: [personal profile] deadofknight
His take is that there is some super interesting history there and he wants to know what it is! Obviously they are opposed to each other, and that intrigues him because it's the first time there's been any open conflict between Personae that he's seen. Aside from being very curious about their history, his other stake in the debate is pretty much whether it's going to raise his chances of getting hurt if the two of them decide to make their Knights throw down. The combination of curiosity and self-interest means that his feelings towards the debate are that it's an interesting thing that he wants and should keep an eye on.

He quite likes Mal on a personal level, but he's sticking with Beauty because switching wouldn't give him anything that he wants. Right now, his loyalty to Beauty is more based on how much of a kick he gets out of placing himself in the role of "Beauty's loyal Knight". And all of what Mal's offered him so far are not really things that shake his enjoyment of the role he likes to think of himself in. Beauty also calls to the Alice-shaped hole in Maze's soul due to canon things, which is an additional incentive for Maze to stick with Beauty. I don't think his newest memory will shake his commitment to Sterling very much because he doesn't have any reason to not want to be Beauty's Knight, and his recent memory didn't really change that.

What memories are you looking forward to for Zero?

Date: 2011-04-04 01:34 am (UTC)
hunting: (+there's no way to rationalize)
From: [personal profile] hunting
I am terribad person so I want his trauma ones mostly. :D Specifically vamping out on Yuuki, trying to stab young Kaname, watching Shizuka horribly slaughter his family and then bite him and getting shot. Also, anything with Cross topping him.

Talk to me more about this concept of the "loyal knight" to Ace.

Date: 2011-04-04 02:13 am (UTC)
deadofknight: (!! - block)
From: [personal profile] deadofknight
Trauma memories are the best. :D

Basically his concept of "loyal knight" is based off what he was told when he first arrived -- serve Beauty, protect heroes, deliver food, give quests. That's his basic concept and being attracted to Beauty due to canon-things made him kinda. Romanticize that idea a little. However, his memories have showed him that he was a knight before and what he's learning about his previous-knightly activities have begun to modify his idea of what it means to be a knight, like being honest. His latest memory interacted with a previous memory he'd received and basically modified his basic concept to make him a lot less worried about being a terrible Knight in Aather, because clearly he used to be terrible at being a knight anyway. So if he gets told that he's being a bad Knight, he's...likelier to just brush it off because whatevs, man! Unless it was Beauty telling him.

What did Thorn think of his first game?

Date: 2011-04-04 02:37 am (UTC)
hunting: (what's with the violent aggression)
From: [personal profile] hunting
First, nobody was hurt! Thorn considers this a success. He had no idea what he was doing though so he thinks he kind of failed Sapphire a little. :( Plus, he's not as adjusted to sharing the knight role at the same time yet so Sion's presence made him a bit... flustered. Because Thorn wants to do things by himself. And Sion questions a lot. But he liked that the team both listened to him and came up with their own conclusion. So even if they didn't win and they messed up on the girl, he's pretty okay with things.

Tell me about Maze's gun skills? Can we be target practice buddies later? :D

Date: 2011-04-04 02:52 am (UTC)
deadofknight: art is from the HnKnA manga unless otherwise stated (say hello to my little friend)
From: [personal profile] deadofknight
His gun skills are nothing special, just the ability to shoot really well. The only special bit is that he can turn objects around him into guns of a similar size, with probably unlimited ammo. :x

And we can totally target practice buddies! \o/ I just...hope Maze's aim has improved by then.

What skills do you want back? For either of your characters.

Date: 2011-04-04 04:09 am (UTC)
hunting: (you can't win this fight)
From: [personal profile] hunting
Zero will help you!

I want Zero's Bloody Rose skillz of course because Zero loev his gun. For Ryner, I both want Izuchi (his spam spell) and his analyzing magic ability. The first is more important to Ryner ICly because it's his least dangerous spell and therefore more useful. Ryner hates fighting at full strength. He's currently working to temper his laser spell.

Who is Maze closest to in Aather right now?

Date: 2011-04-04 04:18 am (UTC)
deadofknight: (nothing to see here move along~)
From: [personal profile] deadofknight
I don't really know... Probably Thorn or Faith? They're the only two he's talked extensively to about his memories, but then again, telling people what happen in his memories isn't a huge thing for him, so. :x "Close" isn't really something Maze does.

Herp derp and out of questions I go. orz

Date: 2011-04-04 04:38 am (UTC)
deadofknight: (I'm so happy I make flowers appear!)
From: [personal profile] deadofknight
*pets :3*

Alice, maybe? I don't know if fuck up is the right way to phrase it, but it would definitely have a pretty big impact on him. Other than that I don't think there're any characters in canon who could really mess with him otherwise.

Reverse?

Date: 2011-04-04 02:11 am (UTC)
pit_peach: (HEIL!)
From: [personal profile] pit_peach
HI RYNER HI

Date: 2011-04-05 01:54 am (UTC)
pit_peach: (THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING RED)
From: [personal profile] pit_peach
* Glass, 'cause he's her mom
* Sand 'cause he's her healthy relationship bro
* Red 'cause he's her unhealthy codependent relationship bro
* Sion because lol Sion.
* And Ryner, her personal trainer. \o/ She trusts him a lot after so much punching, and is also ultra eager to impress.

Thorn's first impression of Sapphire in general?

Date: 2011-04-06 04:33 am (UTC)
hunting: (so have you figured it out now)
From: [personal profile] hunting
Thorn finds Sapphire a bit jumpy and guarded, but they listen and take what others say into consideration so he approves. :|b They're also smart about anticipating any problems, which makes his job easier.

Date: 2011-04-04 02:12 am (UTC)
murderingthetime: (a serpent. a serpent. serpent.)
From: [personal profile] murderingthetime
RYNER ON AMETHYSTTT esp now that tide has made him cry

Date: 2011-04-04 02:14 am (UTC)
andallthekingsmen: chill ? (Default)
From: [personal profile] andallthekingsmen
RYNER ON TIDE NOW THAT TIDE HAS MADE HIM CRY 8O

Date: 2011-04-04 02:24 am (UTC)
ichtreteihrgesicht: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ichtreteihrgesicht
thoughts on riful from both?

also we need to thread ryner and asuka again, i enjoy their interactions.

Date: 2011-04-04 02:32 am (UTC)
ferrissaves: (Donut Nazi.)
From: [personal profile] ferrissaves
Ryner on Ferris now that Tide has made him cry they had pseudo-PDA.
Edited Date: 2011-04-04 02:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-04 05:03 am (UTC)
ferrissaves: (You *wear* the crown; *be* the crown)
From: [personal profile] ferrissaves
I don't have any icons of him hugging her uploaded at all so brotatistic one. 8|

Date: 2011-04-04 05:06 am (UTC)
hunting: (so have you figured it out now)
From: [personal profile] hunting
Lol win. XD

Date: 2011-04-04 07:18 pm (UTC)
ferrissaves: (Donut Nazi.)
From: [personal profile] ferrissaves
In no particular order, except for Marie being #1.
1. Marie
2. Sharon
3. Excel
4. Ahiru
5. Teammates (because it'd be hard to rank them)

She's also decided to adopt Carnelian 8|

What is Ryner's biggest issue regarding Sion joining Onyx?
Edited Date: 2011-04-04 07:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-04 07:59 pm (UTC)
hunting: (why won't you listen)
From: [personal profile] hunting
THAT SION IS STUPID!!!

But really, it bothers himself that Sion, who is already doing less than well, has essentially thrown himself in the middle of a power feud and that Sion chose the most difficult side on top of it. Because he knows that Sion will want to organize Onyx since Sion has been whining to Sterling about it for while. He knows that Sion doesn't believe he can control the situation so it bothers the heck of him that Sion is making such a foolish attempt when he has no real chance of winning. He thinks Sion is in over his head and now there's no way Sion can back out of it. Which sucks because Ryner wants Sion to relax once in a while and now he worries Sion will have even less opportunities for that. In other words, SION IS STUPID and makes him worry. :\

Tell me about Ferris and Breeze~.

Date: 2011-04-04 08:38 pm (UTC)
ferrissaves: (I'll give you a cookie)
From: [personal profile] ferrissaves
It wouldn't have been right to let a girl wander about, especially if she was new and on a new team and whatnot. So Ferris gave her the rundown of stuff she got off of Sion and Ryner and she took it... surprisingly well! No crying or whatever and she seemed rather motivated to do the right thing. Breeze is also super easy to talk to and asks good questions. The fact she can freak out over things like kissing is also highly amusing, so there are potential buttons for Ferris to push if she ever feels... bored...

But overall she wouldn't want to bully Breeze too much. She's a nice, caring girl.

Has Ryner made any friends on the new Teams yet? :3

Date: 2011-04-05 02:10 am (UTC)
ferrissaves: (So I'm happy to report)
From: [personal profile] ferrissaves
FEELINGS ARE HARD. Marie helps her navigate them and is very big sisterish and motherly and Ferris finds it... not unpleasant. (It'll make it so much worse when Ferris sees what her real parents are like but she will carry on! :| ) Even if the answers Marie gives can be a little more general and far from a perfect "THIS IS THE ANSWER. THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO." that Ferris would love to hear, the way she explains things makes it far more acceptable.

She also gives Ferris affection! Hand holding and kisses and whatnot. Ferris is extremely unaccustomed to it, but she can't... really complain? It's nice. So Marie is partly why Ferris is much fuzzier in Aather, not that it'd take any of the :| off when she needs to be a badass.

Which personae does Ryner like/trust the most?

Date: 2011-04-06 04:42 am (UTC)
hunting: (I know the way you've been living)
From: [personal profile] hunting
Ryner loev his Goose. She gives him things and teaches everyone skills to help them get through things. She's also super nice to talk to. And well, there's the whole motherly thing. So yeah, Mother Goose, hands down.

it's not late, it's differently on time.

Date: 2011-04-14 05:12 am (UTC)
ferrissaves: ([Blank])
From: [personal profile] ferrissaves
Okay so Aather!Ferris is considerably fluffier primarily in part to not having too many terrible memories, and, as predicted, the influence of others. At first Ryner was a source of amusement! He makes funny reactions if she says certain trigger things and since she lacks the creativity to make up more "colorful" stuff, she's since figured out how to recycle these triggers in different ways to produce the same effect. Hitting him is partly because she has no outlet for expressing her feelings or that it is a (Sion endorsed) distraction, but it's also fun for childish, sadistic reasons. She partly does it because she can, and he takes it like a champ, lather, rinse, repeat. Was she taking advantage of the fact she owned his ass for a whole week? Absolutely. And it wasn't in a "I almost died, he owes me" sort of way, because she'd already differentiated Ryner from his Alpha Stigma state. She was alive, he was sorry for what he did, no harm, no foul. So it became a game of "what ridiculous crap can I tell him to do?" To her surprise, he did all of it. I think this was partly covered before.

Then they got to know each other better, and she started to understand that he was afraid of who he was. Seeing him scared and sad about that made her feel bad, and she justified it at first by assuming it's because broken toys aren't particularly fun to play with. Then Marie suggests that she might care for Ryner. So it's all her fault, really, for planting an idea in her head that she wouldn't have come to as quickly. In canon, it's just the two of them, and she didn't have any outside party to act as a sounding board and help her sort things out.

When she got around to getting the memory of the two of them locked in Sion's office, she gets that he feels she and Sion can't even to start to understand what he's going through and that he thinks that the only way to relieve them of the burden that is his existence is to RUN AWAY. Total 180 from the lulz of putting him in a dress, so it's rather shocking to her. Then Sion explains that AS bearers are mistreated and feared and she feels... rather guilty for being such a brat. Then there's the issue of why Ryner comes back despite all that, and Sion suggests that she might be that reason and also expresses hopes that Ferris loves Ryner (so it's also the stupid king's fault). She also knows that she and Ryner exchanged rather personal words, so that kind of goes hand in hand with that suggestion, so she's come to the conclusion that she confessed to him.

This, plus large amounts of guilt regarding his AS angst led to more guilt. Combined with the issue that she maybe-confessed to him, and maybe-loves him made her struggle over how exactly to define what their relationship is, how she should be acting within that relationship and WHAT THE HELL IS LOVE ANYWAY? It made her worry if she's abusing him too much. It's also what makes her feel like she needs to pull her own weight workload wise, leading her to offer to help him out with all the assignments Sion gives them. So when he tells her that they're fine the way they are, it's a very nice reassurance to her. It also makes her feel like things would be alright even if she didn't label exactly what they have.

Date: 2011-04-14 05:12 am (UTC)
ferrissaves: (I will do whatever you want me to do)
From: [personal profile] ferrissaves
When Ryner got the memory of the time he ran away, she threw out all the details regarding her memory that she had kept to herself, and then all the feelings came out, about how happy things just didn't seem possible before hanging out with Sion and Ryner, etc. So she's pretty much convinced herself that whatever feelings she has for him are, they're pretty damn strong. So he got promoted from a playmate for her (one-sided) amusement, to something maybe more like a best friend, except seeing him without his shirt on was pretty nice.

In a dress antics were fun, and it sort of did the trick of distracting Ryner, but it wasn't as effective as she would have hoped, which made her feel like she was going about it the wrong way. So she tried to think of things that would make him happy directly, instead of just diverting his attention. Except no one was particularly helpful and she couldn't think of anything Ryner liked more than sleep. This was probably the worst time to meet Adachi and have him tell her how she thinks girls should be acting. It was bad enough that she felt fail for not being able to come up with something to help Ryner on her own, but to have someone saying what Adachi said just exacerbated it.

Which led to telling Ryner all about it, whereupon he gave her the confidence boost and reassurance she needed that she was fine the way she was, which is part of why he's generally endearing. After Three's game, Kida flat out says he thinks she loves Ryner. Since she feels kind of fuzzy on what love is, she asks him what it means to him and comes to the conclusion that it's kind of like being friends except more emotionally dependent on a person and with more physical displays of affection. While she's wary of emotional dependence, she feels like she can't deprive Ryner of emotional support, especially when he clearly needs it and won't seek it out actively because he thinks he doesn't deserve it. She doesn't want to think of herself as someone who needs that support either, but it feels nice to have someone tell you that they like you the way you are.

And defending who you are to someone else to boot.

So Adachi coming up and apologizing to her on Ryner's orders was a pleasant surprise and an ego boost, because she honestly never expected him to do more than just go "that guy's a bother, ignore him." So that really was the icing on a cake that's full of very confused dere thanks to a bunch of shippers on deck.

Date: 2011-04-04 04:41 am (UTC)
antreegonist: Mithos: complicated/smile (eyes on the prize.)
From: [personal profile] antreegonist
FIRST IMPRESSIONS, ZERO?

Date: 2011-04-04 05:00 am (UTC)
hunting: (can you look at yourself now)
From: [personal profile] hunting
Respect. Faith knows what he's doing. Also, Thorn was basically taught early on that Faith and Souya call the shots and he acknowledges this. It does not mean he won't question if he disagrees, but for now, he respects. Other than that, Faith is down to earth, which is something Thorn appreciates. And he has information, which is a big bonus. But overall Faith has the right amounts of intelligence and understanding for Thorn to not view him as naive or foolish. So for now, it is a respect leaning toward like.

REVERSE ME.

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