Question meme
Dec. 5th, 2011 11:28 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
stigmateyesI haven't done one of these in forever and I guesssssss things have happened. Also, I'm sick and bored. :(
So here's your question meme for Ryner/Night and Zero/Thorn.
So here's your question meme for Ryner/Night and Zero/Thorn.
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Date: 2011-12-06 04:14 am (UTC)So really the short version is...Riku helped subject Ven's twin to a Fate Worse Than Death, and while OOC I know Riku feels some regret, and has even awkwardly apologized to Roxas once (though not followed through on it enough to make a good impression), IC Riku has only shown complete callous disregard, repeatedly claiming that Roxas didn't have a right to exist and what he didn't wasn't just excusable but right and natural. Which in and of itself...that's his twin, he's viscerally felt some of the emotional backlash from what Riku set up, and Riku is being unrepentantly awful about it. He is never going to be okay with this guy. 8(
But even beyond that...those are two characters who have a habit of kicking each other in the issues repeatedly. Riku can push Ven's anger buttons, and Ven in return said some things that made Riku genuinely hate him, and Riku as he currently is in Aather is a flaming douchebag so. Lots of grrr. Ven has a few scant reasons to not entirely write Riku off as a horrible human being (they begin with V and end with aliant), but he basically perceives Riku as somebody who's incapable of acknowledging or respecting other people's rights and opinions, even if they're the people he professes to love. Basically, if he had the psych language, he'd peg Riku as a sociopath, because that's how Riku has acted around him. Callous, selfish, demanding, controlling, reckless, ruthless, and utterly unwilling to accept that he's capable of being wrong about anything. I know Riku isn't actually a sociopath, inwardly, but he puts up a very good front of being one, especially to Ven who he actively hates.
At this point, Ven is making every effort not to worsen the situation and to act calm and reasonable whenever he's around the guy, just because it really does bother him when people hate him like that, and he is Valiant's boyfriend, but. He also firmly believes (due to no knowledge to the contrary) that Riku is a ruthless twin-torturing sociopath and giant dick, and nobody's informed him that Riku is not currently actively planning to kill Roxas the first chance he gets, and Ven is deliberately withholding one important piece of information so as to not have Riku trying to kill him too. \:D/
Had Ryner ever interacted with Riku before this random wounded kid dropped out of nowhere and started hitting on Vanitas?
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Date: 2011-12-06 05:20 am (UTC)Mark and Wash.
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Date: 2011-12-06 05:31 am (UTC)Fav. new teammate. :D Mark kind of clicked with Wash right off the bat, which is unusual for him...they have sort of similar socially awkward lineface with occasional deadpan humor. And later, a lot of Wash's am-I-a-bad-person worries kind of pinged Mark for pretty obvious reasons. Wash is the closest Mark has gotten to "you're like meeeee" on some levels, and it's just. He likes the guy a lot and would like to keep being bros with him.
What does Ryner think of Wash?
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Date: 2011-12-06 05:39 am (UTC)Mark's best CR outside of Amethyst?
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Date: 2011-12-06 05:42 am (UTC)Ryner's best CR outside of Amethyst and his cast?
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Date: 2011-12-06 05:53 am (UTC)... I fail at threading Ryner outside his cast/Amethyst.
Sora comes to Aather. What happens?
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Date: 2011-12-06 05:58 am (UTC)...honestly it would probably ultimately be a VERY GOOD THING, there would just be a lot of flailing, and Roxas might well tell Sora everything about what happened because he is very much of the "people deserve to know the truth" school of thought and then Riku would explode. But Ven would love the guy madly on sight, and of the Nobody-knights, Axel at least has reason to be fond, and Saix as he is currently would also be okay with him.
But really, having Sora right there in Aather and clearly not, y'know, comatose from lack of head-Roxas or whatevs would do wonders for sorting out that bullshit, I think.
So I know at least some stuff about Alpha Stigma...what's up with Ryner's other headmonsters and how much is he aware of them at this point?
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Date: 2011-12-06 06:12 am (UTC)2. Ryner Reed. Half of the Lonesome Demon who Lieral, Ryner's father, implanted in him to partially neutralize Alpha so Ryner could return from a berserk state. This cost Ryner both his name, Feruna Lietolu, and his other. Ryner Reed is the dere half, though still quite crazy, and likes to lax about. He is very much in love with the Mad Hero since he's his FIRST FRIEND EVER. He is a giant derp but INSANELY POWERFUL. He is also Ryner's former incarnation so it gets especially confusing. |D
3. Ilna. Ryner's mother. She ended up part of him as a result of Lieral's spell. Her destiny is to be the sacrifice for Alpha and to stop the Mad Hero from devouring Ryner before the time is right.
Ryner is mostly aware of Alpha, but less as an entity ad more as a voice in his head and something that troubles is dreams when Alpha is especially upset. He knows Alpha takes over when he goes berserk. He knows nothing of the other two.
Tell me about Mark's personalities.
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Date: 2011-12-06 06:46 am (UTC)Okay, so I should first note that when I get to talking about Mark's various identities, I'm kind of working on two axes. He's gone through several very distinct phases in his life, during which he had different names, different overall goals, and pretty different identities. Paleon is essentially another one of those. To continue with the surface-identity-over-sea-of-black-goo analogy, those were basically a series of masks he put on, making a new one each time the previous one got shattered. Basically due to his extremely fuxxored life, he had a very long and complicated process of identity formation; there's a reason I picked the journal name I did.
Buuuuuuuut there's also a different set of personalities. Because basically, after a certain point, the sea of black goo got ORGANIZED. This happened when Mark spent about five days in the hands of an utterly masterful torturer who managed to hit him horrificially on pretty much every fracture point that already existed in his psyche due to previous trauma. The identity he'd developed at the time--his final identity (not counting Paleon, of course) and the only truly positive and likeable one--was barely twelve weeks old and fragile. So he let it sink down to sleep deep inside. He comments later that his personality didn't so much split as it inverted. And I should note that this is a) purely psychological, not a magical thing and b) NOT dissociative identity disorder. Because he didn't dissociate. He remembered everything, he just created personas, as necessary, to deal with it. They were the Black Gang, and they were his deepest issues organized, personalized, weaponized, and ready to deal with whatever got thrown at him.
Gorge is the eating/food/body issue complex. He's the most vulnerable of the lot, relatively easygoing, a tasteful gourmand on a good day. On a bad day, he's a compulsive over-eater and can be somewhat bothersome.
Grunt is the sexuality. He's quite shy when he's not all excited, but then he's an utterly shameless and omnivorous hedonist, but also capable of being very loving and sensual. Mark's girlfriend is very fond of him. :3
Howl is the masochism, and he's a butt. The others don't like him so much. He can get particularly problematic during peacetime, as it were, because food and sex are generally plentiful and pain not so much, and he's probably the most difficult for Mark to wrangle. Grunt and Gorge don't like him much either (though they get along with each other.)
Killer does what it says on the tin. :) Killer is the perfect assassin, ruthless, practical, and unable to feel pain. He's also yan. Very, very yan. If Mark ever fully re-develops Killer in Aather, he will possibly out-yan Fon. :) He remains relatively apart from the other voices, serving as a quiet shadowy leader, and is generally quiet in peacetime. Unless, you know, someone is troubling Mark's people. :) :) :)
After Mark got out of there (when Killer surfaced and kicked his torturer to death with his bare feet with both his hands tied behind his back), he did not attempt to integrate or suppress the Black Gang, and that's one of the things I love the most. No more being a surface persona over a sea of black goo. Troublesome as they could be at times, they were his and they completed him. And one of the reasons I've started requesting memories and trying to shove him through some of his story arc is so that I can get them back in Aather. :D
...also yes, Mark is very fucking crazy, but he makes it work for him.
GAH THAT WAS LONG now you understand some of what I mean when I say Mark and identity is complicated on facebook.
I am kind of derping on questions after writing that monstrosity...does Ryner have favorite Personae?
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Date: 2011-12-06 07:16 am (UTC)Ven's?
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Date: 2011-12-06 07:20 am (UTC)Persona Ryner and/or Zero most want to shank, if any?
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Date: 2011-12-06 07:35 am (UTC)Zero: Dream. Lion is close second.
Reverse!
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Date: 2011-12-08 12:09 am (UTC)Mark: If he had a chance to choke the life out of Odile with his bare hands, he'd take it, and he doesn't even have Killer back yet. :)
I am sort of derping on questions at the moment...so derp that I wrote up this comment and forgot to post it for ages. Any more questions for me? o/