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"Night" // Ryner Lute ([personal profile] stigmateyes) wrote2011-11-27 02:12 pm
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Skill 9 - Alpha Stigma: Copy

Okaaay, this is probably the most broken of Ryner's abilities and is what essentially makes Alpha Stigma so damn powerful.

As I've referenced before, Alpha Stigma is pretty much Sharingan for magic. Ryner can copy any magical spell he sees instantly. He can do this either reflexively when magic is used on him or voluntarily when he is shown magic. This is a result of his ability to understand the components of spells and therefore replicate them flawlessly.

Rules of Alpha Stigma's copy ability:

- Once Ryner has copied a spell, he can replicate it at any time.
- It cannot copy magic that isn't a spell. Though it can still analyze it. This means if your magic isn't something learned, Ryner can't copy it.
- As mentioned before, it cannot analyze/copy anything DIVINE.
- If your spell requires an item to perform, it cannot be replicated.
- It cannot copy illusion magic/curses, though it can BREAK them, depending on the complexity.
- Everything else is fair game.
- Whenever Ryner uses the actual copy ability, he will likely get woozy and could pass out, depending on the power of the spell. Using the stolen ability later on will be much harder on him than his regular magic since it's not his.

**Please let me know if you have magic that falls under the above restrictions and CANNOT be copied. Also, hit me up if you have any questions/concerns, as always.**
maidofmagdalene: (Default)

[personal profile] maidofmagdalene 2011-11-27 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Roxas's magic is all unlearned, so doesn't count.

Shion's Medicas *are* copyable. In fact, it's highly encouraged, as we need more healers, in a pinch.
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[personal profile] abettingman 2011-11-27 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Mephisto has magic but it is all demonic in nature. At the moment he can only turn into a dog and do really basic stuff like get clothes and an armchair and ~tea~. The dog thing might be a spell, but everything else is just general demonic magic.

Souya has the magic wardrobe skill, but it falls within demonic abilities too instead of magic.

DO AS YOU WILL 8D
Edited 2011-11-27 19:40 (UTC)
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[personal profile] antreegonist 2011-11-27 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Mithos currently has two kinds of spells! One is the learned chanting/formula/magic circle type; he only has the very basics of this back and it is super power-inefficient so he rarely uses it. Ryner could copy this, but he probably wouldn't get the chance until Mithos earned back more advanced spells!

The other is unlearned, direct manipulation of his magic, which is more versatile and usually less draining; I'm pretty sure Ryner could analyze what Mithos does there but not copy it.

When he gets them back, his illusions couldn't be copied and his angelic light spells actually could -- Symphonia angels only masquerade as divine -- but probably Ryner wouldn't be able to reproduce them full-strength without an Exsphere.

OH NO COMPLICATED LENGTHY ANSWERS
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[personal profile] unionoftheheart 2011-11-27 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe most/all of Ven's magic would count as spells...? It *is* stuff he learned, and there does seem to be a vague system/ritual of "assume this stance, say this word." So you can probably gank healing magic from him right now (yay healing!), and possibly other stuff later.
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[personal profile] shedsfear 2011-11-28 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Hakudou's domain control should be uncopyable I think! It's not spells so much as learning to shape psychic energy in different ways and giving it spell names and actions because that's cool. And it's not innate to her but comes from the ring she wears too :|a
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[personal profile] orange_sun 2011-11-28 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
Josh...hmm. Okay.

I'm going to say that his magic is semi-copyable, but with some caveats.

* Using a spell learned from Josh without modifying it will probably cause spontaneous combustion and death; his magic taps his massively overclocked bioelectric field, and trying to mimic that without an overclocked bioelectric field yourself, well. It might be possible for a genius like Ryner to modify them to work with a Roland-like power source, but probably not easily.


* The elemental magics -- fire, air and water, of which he has air back -- are free-form in the same way Mithos's direct manipulations are free-form and probably can likewise be analyzed but not copied.

* Anything he does with his aura at this point is basically stuff out of condensed mana and thus most likely highly impractical for anyone who doesn't have a metric ton of MP.

If he ever gets back formal spells -- people do use them in his canon, just not the twins yet, and I'm waiting on book 6 to see if Josh ever learns -- Ryner can probably copy those, with the energy caveat.
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[personal profile] tonewlengths 2011-11-28 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
Rapunzel doesn't have her healing magic back yet, but that's definitely uncopyable as it comes from a piece of the sun inside of her and I would say falls under the same category as 'divine'.
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[personal profile] adharma 2011-11-28 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
. . . idk my bff illusions and limit breaks. Neither Aeris no Mukuro's skills were strictly 'learned'. So probably uncopyable?